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	<title>Comments on: Physical Healing In Isaiah 53?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.midactstruths.com/2009/04/05/physical-healing-in-isaiah-53/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to thank you for this article.  It really made this topic clear to me.  One example that I would like to share is about my wife&#039;s uncle.  Her uncle is in the last stages of cancer.  He has not been physically healed from the cancer and the doctors have given him a few months to a couple years to live.  Whether or not he is physically healed or not is beyond the point.  The MOST important decision that he made was to ask Jesus into his heart and heal him from his sin.  Through his ailments, he saw that he needed to know where he was going to spend eternity. In making that decision he will now spend eternity in heaven and be freed from his sin.  If God heals him of his cancer that&#039;s fine, but the most important healing took place in his soul.  I believe that sometimes GOD uses or sickness or disease to help us realize our total dependence on him.  Praise be to GOD for the decision that my wife&#039;s uncle made to ask Jesus into his heart and heal him from his sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to thank you for this article.  It really made this topic clear to me.  One example that I would like to share is about my wife&#8217;s uncle.  Her uncle is in the last stages of cancer.  He has not been physically healed from the cancer and the doctors have given him a few months to a couple years to live.  Whether or not he is physically healed or not is beyond the point.  The MOST important decision that he made was to ask Jesus into his heart and heal him from his sin.  Through his ailments, he saw that he needed to know where he was going to spend eternity. In making that decision he will now spend eternity in heaven and be freed from his sin.  If God heals him of his cancer that&#8217;s fine, but the most important healing took place in his soul.  I believe that sometimes GOD uses or sickness or disease to help us realize our total dependence on him.  Praise be to GOD for the decision that my wife&#8217;s uncle made to ask Jesus into his heart and heal him from his sin.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isaiah53 is about the healing and restoration of all people.
 Yes Jesus Christ is still Healing 
Yesterday Today and Tomorrow: 

 We Us and Our is used here in Verses 1 through 6 only to show all people 
That the Father still Loves and is giving  restoration (Healing)even today


4 Surely He has borne our griefs 
      And carried our sorrows; 
      Yet we esteemed Him stricken, 
      
 (Yet) [adverb] used in negative statement to describe a situation that has existed up to this point or up to the present time;

Smitten by God, and afflicted 
On the Cross of Jesus

But we considered  him stricken, smitten of God and afflicted
The three expressions stricken (Hebrew “nagua”) refers to a loathsome disease such as leprosy: “smitten of God” a divine retribution for a heinous sin and “afflicted” as one might be afflicted by the punishment for one’s crime: all these describe the terrible consequence of sin
Jesus came to sent us free from all this.

 The  whole sacrificial system symbolizes substitution of the innocent for the guilty. No sacrificial animal, however perfect, could by itself make atonement for sin. In the last analysis the sacrifice was merely symbolic and pointed to the fact that he sinner deserved to die. And that it was the servant of God, who voluntarily took upon himself the sins of all men.

John 1.29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
John 3.18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isaiah53 is about the healing and restoration of all people.<br />
 Yes Jesus Christ is still Healing<br />
Yesterday Today and Tomorrow: </p>
<p> We Us and Our is used here in Verses 1 through 6 only to show all people<br />
That the Father still Loves and is giving  restoration (Healing)even today</p>
<p>4 Surely He has borne our griefs<br />
      And carried our sorrows;<br />
      Yet we esteemed Him stricken, </p>
<p> (Yet) [adverb] used in negative statement to describe a situation that has existed up to this point or up to the present time;</p>
<p>Smitten by God, and afflicted<br />
On the Cross of Jesus</p>
<p>But we considered  him stricken, smitten of God and afflicted<br />
The three expressions stricken (Hebrew “nagua”) refers to a loathsome disease such as leprosy: “smitten of God” a divine retribution for a heinous sin and “afflicted” as one might be afflicted by the punishment for one’s crime: all these describe the terrible consequence of sin<br />
Jesus came to sent us free from all this.</p>
<p> The  whole sacrificial system symbolizes substitution of the innocent for the guilty. No sacrificial animal, however perfect, could by itself make atonement for sin. In the last analysis the sacrifice was merely symbolic and pointed to the fact that he sinner deserved to die. And that it was the servant of God, who voluntarily took upon himself the sins of all men.</p>
<p>John 1.29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!<br />
John 3.18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.midactstruths.com/2009/04/05/physical-healing-in-isaiah-53/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connie,

I&#039;m not sure what you meant by your last statement, but let me address something that you wrote.  You wrote that we have not because we ask not and that Jesus&#039; followers would do greater things than He did.  We have to remember who Jesus is talking to-the nation of Israel.  Jesus was their minister (Romans 15:8) and the supernatural signs and wonders, healings being one of them, were to convince unbelieving Israel (1 Corinthians 1:22) that their King was here and Jesus did and said everything with this Kingdom economy at the forefront of His ministry.  Supernatural healings are a part of that (see Isaiah).  The Apostles of Israel (Gal. 2:8)continued this Kingdom message through the first 8 chapters of Acts and we do see some &quot;greater things&quot; performed by the Aposltes of Israel (Gal. 2:8).  But our instructions from Jesus through the Apostle Paul about prayer and healing is in Phillipians 4:6-7.  There are no promises of healing &quot;if we just ask.&quot;  &quot;The peace of God&quot; is our promise today.  Again, I point to the Apostle Paul&#039;s later ministry when He instructed Timothy to take some wine for a stomach ailment.  Why didn&#039;t he tell Timothy that he had not because he asked not?  How about when Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletus?  Why didn&#039;t Paul do a &quot;greater thing&quot; and heal him?  Does God heal today? Of course He does, but it is according to His grace and purposes, not because of any promise to heal.  We MUST separate the earthly walking, law keeping Jesus of Nazareth&#039;s commands to Israel in the gospels with the Glorified Lord Jesus&#039; commands to the Body of Christ.  Jesus now gives us our commands through the Apostle of the Gentiles-Paul.  I, again, point to 2 Timothy 2:15 where Paul instructs us to &quot;rightly divide the Word of truth&quot; (KJV).  Once we understand what that means, then the confusion about what &quot;Jesus said&quot; and to whom was it said will disappear.

Thanks for visiting this website and keep digging!

Paul Pedro

P.S. For more on the sign gifts to Israel, see the article on this website titled, &quot;Understanding the Gift of Tongues&quot;.  I hope this helps.  God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connie,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you meant by your last statement, but let me address something that you wrote.  You wrote that we have not because we ask not and that Jesus&#8217; followers would do greater things than He did.  We have to remember who Jesus is talking to-the nation of Israel.  Jesus was their minister (Romans 15:8) and the supernatural signs and wonders, healings being one of them, were to convince unbelieving Israel (1 Corinthians 1:22) that their King was here and Jesus did and said everything with this Kingdom economy at the forefront of His ministry.  Supernatural healings are a part of that (see Isaiah).  The Apostles of Israel (Gal. 2:8)continued this Kingdom message through the first 8 chapters of Acts and we do see some &#8220;greater things&#8221; performed by the Aposltes of Israel (Gal. 2:8).  But our instructions from Jesus through the Apostle Paul about prayer and healing is in Phillipians 4:6-7.  There are no promises of healing &#8220;if we just ask.&#8221;  &#8220;The peace of God&#8221; is our promise today.  Again, I point to the Apostle Paul&#8217;s later ministry when He instructed Timothy to take some wine for a stomach ailment.  Why didn&#8217;t he tell Timothy that he had not because he asked not?  How about when Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletus?  Why didn&#8217;t Paul do a &#8220;greater thing&#8221; and heal him?  Does God heal today? Of course He does, but it is according to His grace and purposes, not because of any promise to heal.  We MUST separate the earthly walking, law keeping Jesus of Nazareth&#8217;s commands to Israel in the gospels with the Glorified Lord Jesus&#8217; commands to the Body of Christ.  Jesus now gives us our commands through the Apostle of the Gentiles-Paul.  I, again, point to 2 Timothy 2:15 where Paul instructs us to &#8220;rightly divide the Word of truth&#8221; (KJV).  Once we understand what that means, then the confusion about what &#8220;Jesus said&#8221; and to whom was it said will disappear.</p>
<p>Thanks for visiting this website and keep digging!</p>
<p>Paul Pedro</p>
<p>P.S. For more on the sign gifts to Israel, see the article on this website titled, &#8220;Understanding the Gift of Tongues&#8221;.  I hope this helps.  God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Krezelok</title>
		<link>http://www.midactstruths.com/2009/04/05/physical-healing-in-isaiah-53/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Krezelok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we are healed in God&#039;s timing.  We live in part not in whole, but we will be healed either on earth or eternity.  But Jesus did say that as His followers we would do greater things.  One thing He did was to heal physical illness. God is God whether we are healed now or later.  But we have not because we ask not and we die for lack of knowledge.  What if the doctrinal issue here that often splits churches and separates believers is not yes and no, or no but is yes and yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we are healed in God&#8217;s timing.  We live in part not in whole, but we will be healed either on earth or eternity.  But Jesus did say that as His followers we would do greater things.  One thing He did was to heal physical illness. God is God whether we are healed now or later.  But we have not because we ask not and we die for lack of knowledge.  What if the doctrinal issue here that often splits churches and separates believers is not yes and no, or no but is yes and yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.midactstruths.com/2009/04/05/physical-healing-in-isaiah-53/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Light of Love,

I&#039;m not sure what you are driving at in your comment about my article.  I was raised with the idea that we, in the Body of Christ, are to claim physical healing because of the cross of Christ.  This teaching was based on Isaiah 53 as well as the others listed in the article.  If healing didn&#039;t happen, I was taught that I didn&#039;t have enough faith or I had some unconfessed sin.  

After years of study, I found that teaching to be faulty.  Like I said in the article, God can and does heal today, but there is no promise of that for us in this age of grace based on the cross, Isaiah 53 or any other Scripture.  I refer to the Apostle Paul and ask why he didn&#039;t heal Trophimus-2 Timothy 4:20?  Why didn&#039;t Paul heal Epaphroditus-Phil. 2:27?  Why wasn&#039;t Paul healed himself?  Because, God&#039;s grace is sufficient in this age of grace and we walk by faith and not by sight-2 Cor. 5:7.  Are we to pray for healing?  Absolutely!  For Phil. 4:6-7 says to bring &quot;ALL&quot; our petitions to God.  But, then note God&#039;s promise to us.  Does it say in Phil. 4:6-7 that he promises to heal us?  No, the &quot;peace of God&quot; is the promise.  God will eventually heal all of us totally-at the rapture, but until then, &quot;...we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.&quot;

Thanks for your comment and keep searching the Scriptures.

Paul Pedro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light of Love,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you are driving at in your comment about my article.  I was raised with the idea that we, in the Body of Christ, are to claim physical healing because of the cross of Christ.  This teaching was based on Isaiah 53 as well as the others listed in the article.  If healing didn&#8217;t happen, I was taught that I didn&#8217;t have enough faith or I had some unconfessed sin.  </p>
<p>After years of study, I found that teaching to be faulty.  Like I said in the article, God can and does heal today, but there is no promise of that for us in this age of grace based on the cross, Isaiah 53 or any other Scripture.  I refer to the Apostle Paul and ask why he didn&#8217;t heal Trophimus-2 Timothy 4:20?  Why didn&#8217;t Paul heal Epaphroditus-Phil. 2:27?  Why wasn&#8217;t Paul healed himself?  Because, God&#8217;s grace is sufficient in this age of grace and we walk by faith and not by sight-2 Cor. 5:7.  Are we to pray for healing?  Absolutely!  For Phil. 4:6-7 says to bring &#8220;ALL&#8221; our petitions to God.  But, then note God&#8217;s promise to us.  Does it say in Phil. 4:6-7 that he promises to heal us?  No, the &#8220;peace of God&#8221; is the promise.  God will eventually heal all of us totally-at the rapture, but until then, &#8220;&#8230;we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment and keep searching the Scriptures.</p>
<p>Paul Pedro</p>
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		<title>By: Light of Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Light of Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul _ please qualify your experience(education,for example) to critique bible passages.  In the time of the old testament, it was believed, as you point out, sin and disease are one in the same.  By his stripes we are healed; emotionally, spiritually, mentally, physically and totally - whether in this life, through God&#039;s grace or in the next, but we are healed in God&#039;s time, of ALL our ailments.  WHat&#039;s the real motive here?  Your point to prove the bible interpreted by those sick looking for hope, is...
???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul _ please qualify your experience(education,for example) to critique bible passages.  In the time of the old testament, it was believed, as you point out, sin and disease are one in the same.  By his stripes we are healed; emotionally, spiritually, mentally, physically and totally &#8211; whether in this life, through God&#8217;s grace or in the next, but we are healed in God&#8217;s time, of ALL our ailments.  WHat&#8217;s the real motive here?  Your point to prove the bible interpreted by those sick looking for hope, is&#8230;<br />
???</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.midactstruths.com/2009/04/05/physical-healing-in-isaiah-53/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne,  it seems that you didn&#039;t read the article carefully.  The physical healing in Isaiah 53:4 was fulfilled during Christ&#039;s earthly ministry-see Matthew 8:16-17.  The Holy Spirit inspired Matthew to write this.  This passage is not attributed by the Holy Spirit to the cross.  The article also points out very clearly that the healing mentioned elsewhere in Isaiah 53 and 2 Peter is referring to being healed from sin.  This theme is carried out throughout Israel&#039;s history.

Also, it is a very dangerous idea to interject &quot;us&quot; or &quot;we or &quot;i&quot; into any passage of the Bible and &quot;make it personal&quot;.  Would you do this throughout the book of Leviticus, which is all Law for Israel?-Compare that with Romans 6:14.  How about whenever God passed judgment upon Israel and &quot;us&quot; or &quot;we&quot; or &quot;I&quot; is used.  Would you claim that and &quot;make it personal&quot;.  No, we MUST understand the context of what we are reading-to whom is it written, when was it written and under what circumstance was it written.  All Scripture is FOR us (Romans 15:4 and 1 Corinthians 10:11), but it is not all written TO us or ABOUT us.  Diligent study is needed to understand the whole of Scripture and I would encourage you to keep digging and find out what is meant by &quot;rightly dividing the Word of truth&quot; in 2 Timothy 2:15-KJV.

Thank you for your comment.

Paul Pedro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,  it seems that you didn&#8217;t read the article carefully.  The physical healing in Isaiah 53:4 was fulfilled during Christ&#8217;s earthly ministry-see Matthew 8:16-17.  The Holy Spirit inspired Matthew to write this.  This passage is not attributed by the Holy Spirit to the cross.  The article also points out very clearly that the healing mentioned elsewhere in Isaiah 53 and 2 Peter is referring to being healed from sin.  This theme is carried out throughout Israel&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>Also, it is a very dangerous idea to interject &#8220;us&#8221; or &#8220;we or &#8220;i&#8221; into any passage of the Bible and &#8220;make it personal&#8221;.  Would you do this throughout the book of Leviticus, which is all Law for Israel?-Compare that with Romans 6:14.  How about whenever God passed judgment upon Israel and &#8220;us&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8221; is used.  Would you claim that and &#8220;make it personal&#8221;.  No, we MUST understand the context of what we are reading-to whom is it written, when was it written and under what circumstance was it written.  All Scripture is FOR us (Romans 15:4 and 1 Corinthians 10:11), but it is not all written TO us or ABOUT us.  Diligent study is needed to understand the whole of Scripture and I would encourage you to keep digging and find out what is meant by &#8220;rightly dividing the Word of truth&#8221; in 2 Timothy 2:15-KJV.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment.</p>
<p>Paul Pedro</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let’s take a look at Isaiah 53:4. “Surely our griefs (sickness) He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted.”

Look at this passage add your name  

Surely Waynes griefs
And Wayne’s sorrow
Yet waynes ourselves esteemed Him
In the 1 to 6  were there is a WE US OUR put your name in make it personal

Proverbs 30:4 
4 Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? 
      Who has gathered the wind in His fists? 
      Who has bound the waters in a garment? 
      Who has established all the ends of the earth? 
      What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, 
      If you know? 
John 3:16 
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
“healing” or “restoration”.
this belongs to all people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let’s take a look at Isaiah 53:4. “Surely our griefs (sickness) He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted.”</p>
<p>Look at this passage add your name  </p>
<p>Surely Waynes griefs<br />
And Wayne’s sorrow<br />
Yet waynes ourselves esteemed Him<br />
In the 1 to 6  were there is a WE US OUR put your name in make it personal</p>
<p>Proverbs 30:4<br />
4 Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?<br />
      Who has gathered the wind in His fists?<br />
      Who has bound the waters in a garment?<br />
      Who has established all the ends of the earth?<br />
      What is His name, and what is His Son’s name,<br />
      If you know?<br />
John 3:16<br />
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.<br />
“healing” or “restoration”.<br />
this belongs to all people</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this up.  This teaching drives me nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this up.  This teaching drives me nuts.</p>
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